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		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Igneo</meneame:user>
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		<title>#16 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 19:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Igneo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Vete a saber lo que nos deparará el futuro.<br />
<br />
Podemos concebir una flota de robots que organice un hábitat autosuficiente, unos humanos modificados genéticamente para resistir en Marte... vete a saber.<br />
<br />
Lo que es cierto es que no hemos asumido las distancias. Nada dice que el sistema solar tenga la obligación de ser accesible a nosotros.<br />
<br />
Desde luego ir a Marte lo veo difícil en dos o tres generaciones, pero igual se inventa un cohete que... vete a saber.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Igneo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284591</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Roboto7826</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#15 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roboto7826</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Eso decían de la Luna.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Roboto7826</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284577</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>helisan</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#14 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>helisan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="suggestion c:79362-13" href="https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> ehem, en todo caso sería el homo antecessor <img src="https://beta.mediatize.info/v_14/img/menemojis/36/blank.png" alt=":-|" title=":-| :|" width="18" height="18" class="emoji" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>helisan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284575</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--978--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--978--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="suggestion c:79362-11" href="https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> el atapuerco. Por viejo y por el aseo personal</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--978--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284574</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--978--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--978--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Total que ni voy a ir a Marte, ni voy a tener una inteligencia artificial que haga la mitad de mi trabajo diario, ni voy a poder f*****me a jóvenes macizorras con la realidad virtual.<br />
Ya estamos en el futuro, pero el futuro es una mierda.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--978--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284573</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>helisan</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>40</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#11 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>helisan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="suggestion c:79362-10" href="https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> mis parientes no me llaman &#34;abuelo&#34;, &#34;yayo&#34; o cosas así... me llaman &#34;el antepasado&#34;.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>helisan</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284571</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--978--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#10 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--978--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="suggestion c:79362-1" href="https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> pues si quieres viejo</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--978--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284508</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
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		<title>#9 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 14:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>inconformistadesdeel67</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="suggestion c:79362-7" href="https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Depende del ciclo en que nos pille, ahora se prevé cambio a ciclo de progreso con la IA. <img src="https://beta.mediatize.info/v_14/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" class="emoji" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>inconformistadesdeel67</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284495</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--1599--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>40</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#8 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 13:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--1599--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--1599--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284405</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--1179--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>77</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#7 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--1179--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="suggestion c:79362-4" href="https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Bueno, entonces a partir del momento en que lleguen ya habrá inteligencia allí y en la tierra quedará menos porque habrá mayoría de fachas</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--1179--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284338</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>40</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#6 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2024 23:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>function</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="suggestion c:79362-4" href="https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> <img src="https://beta.mediatize.info/v_14/img/menemojis/36/cunao.png" alt=":_)" title=":cunao: :_)" width="18" height="18" class="emoji" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>function</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284329</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Henry</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
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		<title>#5 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2024 22:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;En el segundo siglo de nuestra era, Luciano de Samosata compuso una Historia verídica, que encierra, entre otras maravillas, una descripción de los selenitas, que (según el verídico historiador) hilan y cardan los metales y el vidrio, se quitan y se ponen los ojos, beben zumo de aire o aire exprimido. A principios del siglo xvi, Ludovico Ariosto imaginó que un paladín descubre en la Luna todo lo que se pierde en la Tierra: las lágrimas y suspiros de los amantes, el tiempo malgastado en el juego, los proyectos inútiles y los no saciados anhelos. En el siglo xvii, Kepler redactó un Somnium Astronomicum, que finge ser la transcripción de un libro leído en un sueño, cuyas páginas prolijamente revelan la conformación y los hábitos de las serpientes de la Luna que durante los ardores del día se guarecen en profundas cavernas y salen al atardecer. Entre el primero y el segundo de estos viajes imaginarios hay mil trescientos años y entre el segundo y el tercero, unos cien; los dos primeros son, sin embargo, invenciones irresponsables y libres y el tercero está como entorpecido por un afán de verosimilitud. La razón es clara: para Luciano y para Ariosto, un viaje a la Luna era símbolo o arquetipo de lo imposible; para Kepler ya era una posibilidad, como para nosotros.&#34;<br />
Jose Luis Borges prologo de Cronicas marcianas de Ray Bradbury</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Henry</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284316</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--1599--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>40</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#4 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2024 22:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--1599--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--1599--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284308</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Juan_Nervion</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#3 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2024 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Juan_Nervion</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ni falta que hace.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Juan_Nervion</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284302</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>79362</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>inconformistadesdeel67</meneame:user>
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		<title>#2 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>inconformistadesdeel67</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="suggestion c:79362-1" href="https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> En definitiva, que eso de viajar de una bolita a otra, salvo en el caso de poseer una tecnología desconocida por nosotros, supone un reto inabordable. <a class='suggestion u:Roundpixel' href='/user/Roundpixel'>@Roundpixel</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>inconformistadesdeel67</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>284298</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>helisan</meneame:user>
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		<title>#1 Nunca iremos a Marte</title>
		<link>https://beta.mediatize.info/story/nunca-iremos-a-marte/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>helisan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>prácticamente todo lo que explica el youtuber lo vengo diciendo desde 1975 --&#62; <a href="https://www.mediatize.info/tema/Escombrillos/paleofuturismo-i" title="www.mediatize.info/tema/Escombrillos/paleofuturismo-i" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.mediatize.info/tema/Escombrillos/paleofuturismo-i</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>helisan</strong></p>]]></description>
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